I browse the net alot and I join many discussion groups and forums.. I like to read people’s opinions. I am obsessed with people’s thoughts. And always.. every where I go.. someone points out this rhetorical question! Does God exist? Common.. Give it up.. I don’t care much about atheist or anything.. They can believe in nothing for all I care.. but stop asking this question and expecting an answer.. Since the beginning of time people have wondered about this.. but if you read ancient history and read about the Greeks, Romans, and Chinese they had believed in a higher power. Something that controlled their existance because humans know they are not immortal. We do not live on this earth forever! Someone out there is responsible for everything that happens to us. Someone created us to live on this planet. And stop this gibberish about scientific reasoning and evolution.. Well for those who believe in evolution.. it is said that humans evolved from monkeys.. then where the hell did the monkeys come from? MARS? Common.. stop asking this question please.. Every where I go.. evey where when any controversial topic about any religion the same question comes up.. Does God exist!!? YES GOD EXISTS! We did not choose to live on this horrible planet earth and suffer for nothing!! Things just don’t happen! There is always a reason! I won’t get into any religious arguements here.. but I always think LOGICALLY! Think people! Think!! Ask your self these questions:
- Why the hell was I born?
- Why do I have to suffer on this earth!
- Why is the earth brown, grass green and sky blue!
- Why do I unconsiously think that someone out there controlls me and controls my fate!
- Why some people are evil and some are good?
- Why bad things happen on this earth and why?
- etc.. so many questions!!
And there is always the 5 year old kid’s question.. Even my sister when she was little asked this question.. Where did God come from? You know.. some things as human beings does not need to be answered or even have an answer.. There are many things that humans wonder about and think.. That is the most thought of question.. It’s like asking why is the earth the 3rd planet from the sun and not the 4th? or second.. why is it round and not flat? why do we feel that it is flat as we walk on it? why are there other planets in the universe and no proof yet if there are other beings out there.. Maybe not in the same form as us but something else out there in the universe.. Why us humans are given brains to think and reason and ask all these questions.. ? There are so so so many questions but like your mom would tell you when you are little.. don’t ask.. your not old enough to know yet.. and same as for us humans.. don’t ask if God exists or not. Just accept the fact and stop arguing!
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Sunday, December 10th 2006 at 8:17 pm
I know, tell me about it. Its really aggravating after a while. Excellent point about it being the 5 year old kid’s question. Maybe these people have simply not grown beyond 5!
Monday, December 11th 2006 at 4:13 am
The simplest answer would be to say that God exists and that God is evil.
Monday, December 11th 2006 at 8:34 am
hmm.. interesting answers..
Monday, December 11th 2006 at 10:35 am
calm down, I like you!
Monday, December 11th 2006 at 10:37 am
I am calm.. I like you too Moey! :P
Monday, December 11th 2006 at 7:47 pm
Wow!
Friday, December 15th 2006 at 3:16 am
Hmmm… I actually enjoyed reading this
Saturday, December 16th 2006 at 3:00 pm
“There are so so so many questions but like your mom would tell you when you are little.. don’t ask.. your not old enough to know yet.. and same as for us humans.. don’t ask if God exists or not. Just accept the fact and stop arguing!”
I’m more than a little late in commenting, but having read a number of your entries and having found your thoughts to be very interesting, I find that I need to comment on the phrase quoted above. I disagree. I don’t believe that “your’e not old enough to understand” is ever an answer, unless one is referring to “experience.” In other words, one is not old enough to experience what it is that he or she is inquiring about, or has lived for insufficient time to have gained sufficient experience to “comprehend” meaningfully what is largely an experience.
When I was young, my parents, particularly my father, would frequently answer questions that way. I resent that.
I now know that those were questions for which he did not have a satisfactory answer, and I resolved not to do that with my children. So far, the only time that I have answered one of my children’s questions with “your not old enough to understand” was when my oldest asked me, “Daddy, what is sex?” Even then I answered the question with facts, and the “your not old enough” part of my answer was when I was explaining to him why this activity might be desirable, as opposed to the disgusting “work” of procreation that it sounded like to him.
In keeping with my theme, I would answer the question, “Does God exist?” by saying that the question can only be answered honestly with experience. Think about that answer, and please comment, as I would be interested in hearing your thoughts. I, personally, do not think that “logic” has anything to do with answering the question, though I agree that logic can be applied. The bottom line for me is experience and recognition, not logic.
I also have a question for you. How can someone such as yourself, pretty, intelligent, gainfully employed, and raised in a loving family, ever spend one moment feeling other than happy and fulfilled?
Saturday, December 16th 2006 at 3:40 pm
Hello AngloGermanicAmerican.. I didn’t know there were Germans who are Anglos.. I thought most Germans are Cathloic.. But I donno. I am not German nor Catholic! :P But doesn’t matter. It is still Christianity..
I will answer you only because you have spent the time writing your reply in an intelligent matter and I like that a lot.. Something to get me thinking and also for my readers..
So the question about the existence of God for me is based on Logical Facts.. for most humans that is based on experience and putting their life experiences in one pile. Humans love to analyze everything.. and they love to analyze them selves the most. And once humans don’t understand something or don’t have an answer for something, they think that God has something to do with it. Or for some they call it the Greater Power! No matter what.. humans who have great reasoning and deep thoughts will always think that getting closer to God is the best way to go. But why do they do that? Because inevitably that is what will make sence to them. The unquestionable power of God will give them the reason and answers to their problems.
Anyways, the older one gets the more he/she will seem to want to explore and understand the point of their life. I don’t want to argue about religions and how people perceive God here. Everyone has their own beliefs. Also the reason I said some things we are not old enough to understand meaning that Humans no matter how much they analyze and ask and wonder, there are no answers to some things. That is what I meant.. I didn’t mean that we are not old enough (literly).. but no matter how much we ask, we may never come to a conclusion that we are ever satisfied with.
Your last question now.. interesting perspective on the way you analyzed me. Ok .. well since you live in North America you are very familiar with celebrities and famous people. The more famous they are they more problems they seem to have on a personal note.. same as rich people. The more money they have, the more unhappy they seem because they cannot get the basic things in life that a normal person may have and be satisfied with. So from your analysis you think that I may have it all… but in reality.. there are more simple things that one may long for. Some basic things that other people may have and I don’t. Simple as that. Like I said.. no matter how great things seem that the other person has, the more unhappy they become looking for the basic simple things in life.
So yes I am a complex person who analysis things waay too much.. That is what happens when you are a Programmer.. the tiniest things are analyzed!
Sunday, December 17th 2006 at 8:22 pm
The need (or compulsion) to analyze the “tiniest details� is not a condition unique to programmers, I assure you.
I am similarly afflicted. Perhaps, had I been born later and attended college at a time when computer programs were no longer written on cards, I too would have been a programmer. Instead, I became a . . .well, a lawyer.
My name, AngloGermanicAmerican, reflects my origins and perhaps my identity. The Anglo part represents my English (Scottish and French) ancestors who came to the North American continent on the very first ships (not counting the Vikes). The Germanic part represents the German and Dutch ancestors who came to the “New World� in the mid to late 1800’s. To my knowledge, they were all protestants - the Germans were Baptists who became Presbyterian, and the Dutch were Reformed, also a Calvinistic denomination. I also like the name because it is absurd, almost as absurd as “African American� and “Native American�. The word “absurd� is not quite accurate, but further explanation would risk boring you to death.
My last question to you which I posed in my earlier comment had two sources. First, I had read a number of your posts, and I asked it because in your most recent post in which you indicated that the crazy/funny comments were appreciated but were not cheering you up. My question to you was really, “How can you ever be down in the dumps?� Answering the question in more than a superficial way requires one to step back and to try to gain perspective. The opening part of the question was describing the “you� that I saw in your entries, and I genuinely wanted to hear what you would say, in this time of “unhappiness� or “trying uncertainty� that you are experiencing.
The second reason why the question popped into my mind was because I recently had asked that question of myself in a context that was quite different but analogous to your present context. I was and am working on what is a very difficult case. The stress, the responsibility, the weight of it all was killing me. I would look at people engaged in other jobs and silently wish to myself that I had their job; one which carries very little responsibility or consequence if not performed correctly. Even as I was silently wishing to myself that the “cup would be taken from me,� I could also see myself as an absolute ingrate. From another perspective, what I was working on presented an opportunity that many lawyers never get a chance to do. I knew that I should be thankful for the opportunity, as opposed to dreading or wishing away the task that lay before me. The latter perspective is the accurate one.
The truth is that you “have it all.� You have all that is required, you lack for nothing of any importance, yet you are not satisfied. Starving people, people who have no home, no family, no loving mother who cooks exotic (from my perspective) dishes and treats, etc., have something which they require yet are without. You, and I, and most of our North American countrymen (and women) lack for nothing, right? Yet, we are by and large not entirely satisfied, and worse yet, we actually are able to think that we are receiving the short end of the stick on occasion.
The problem isn’t with God or His/Her existence. It’s with us, isn’t it? Shouldn’t we know ourselves intimately, shouldn’t we be able to answer these questions for ourselves, shouldn’t we be happy and satisfied when our physical (food, shelter, clothing) needs and our relationship (family and friends) needs are met? Why is it that we always want more? We want more or deeper relationships, more money, more security, more more more? Why aren’t we satisfied?
I recognize that the previous paragraph is saying things that you have not said or acknowledged. Here is what you said:
The more money they [celebrities] have, the more unhappy they seem because they cannot get the basic things in life that a normal person may have and be satisfied with. So from your analysis you think that I may have it all… but in reality.. there are more simple things that one may long for. Some basic things that other people may have and I don’t. Simple as that. Like I said.. no matter how great things seem that the other person has, the more unhappy they become looking for the basic simple things in life.
I would respectfully submit to you that you have “the basics�. Whether you feel that a spouse, children, etc, also are basics is irrelevant. Those will come in time, trust me. Yet, they still will not be “enough� whatever that means. You will still experience the same feeling that you wrote about in your most recent posts, yet you will identify some other “basic� that you are missing as a source of your feeling. That, as far as I am concerned is human nature. At least I hope that it is, because I frequently catch myself feeling that way, and I have even more of the “basics� than you.
Lastly, your dismissal of the question of whether God exists interests me. Personally, I don’t dismiss the question as unanswerable. In my view, the answer to the question of whether God exists is akin to the question of whether love exists. Does true love exist? What is it? Are humans capable of it, or do they always have some selfish purpose, need, or desire which makes their proclamations of love sound hollow and perhaps corrupted? My own answer is that both exist, and my answer is based upon experience, for I have experienced both. I say these things only to try to get you to think, and of course, I am interested in reading your responses. I have 20 years of life more than you do, but I see myself in a lot of what you have written. I hope that you will interpret what I have written in the context of someone who is discussing, as opposed to arguing.
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