And for Mohanned.. please.. If you think my blog as a whole sucks and this is the first or second time I see you posting cause it is a controversial issue than please stop posting. I mean I don’t care what you say really. As from reading your comments. You are purely Jordanian and the post has nothing to do with you. I wasn’t even addressing you. So please stop all these long arguments and end it now.

1) My answer was neither shallow nor skeptical, I’m just trying to stay within the scope of the discussion.

2)”And nobody wants anybody to be grateful, it is your life that you built with your own hands and you take credit for it,”

No, there should be some loyalty to the country that anyone have its nationality, even if it’s America. you reap what you sow, I agree, but be grateful for being given the chance to reap. Compare the situation with the refugees in Lebanon.

3)”I have never seen a palastenian that says he is only jordanian and I have never seen a jordanian who doesn’t state his original city”

Sorry, but obviously you’re not in Jordan. I’ve seen such incidents all the time. You know what, just roam the Jordanian blogsphere and you will find out lots of example!!! Ask anybody who lives in Jordan and he/she will tell you.

4) There’s an identity crisis. Israel is claiming Falafel, Mjaddara, el thoob el falasteene, to be all Israeli heritage.

This is a long discussion, and I’m not planning to take it any further. So please for the sake of our beloved friend Mona (blogs owner), let’s end it here.

Dear Mona,

sorry for the long comment, It’s just an important topic..

by the way I am joking and I would never do that.. not my style!

Anyways, I am born in Saudi Arabia and I lived there till I was 11. That does not make me anything close to being Saudi. I am what I am. I will never deny my roots. I don’t care what you guys keep fighting about. I said from the beginning, I read blogs thinking that the writer is Palestinian, and the first thing they say that they are Jordanian. I am like fine. Whatever. I don’t care. Everyone makes their choices in how they want to represent them selves.

I am Palestinian-Canadian. That’s how I represent my self!

That sounded like you were saying that no matter what I said, you were going to disagree Anyway, I don’t disagree with the notion that you should never deny your heritage. In that regard, I think it is nice, and in the case of Palestine’s special circumnstances, it becomes important, to stick to your heritage.

However, you are crossing a fine line between criticising those who deny their Palestinian heritage (something I believe is wrong) and criticising those who simply acknowledge their stronger physical ties to the country that they are nationals of. The two are very different things. The second criticism, I believe is unjustified.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a person who is of the Jordanian nationality saying that he/she is Jordanian. If they were from families that came from other places (like Syria, Palestine, Chechnya), this statement doesn’t deny those ancestral ties. In the end, it is completely up to them and it is their right to determine which one they would like to be identified with, just as you choose to be identified with Palestine, even though you are really a Canadian too.

When those people deny their heritage however, it becomes a different story, and there you might have a valid point in criticising that behavior. But most of those who deny they are from Palestinian families do so out of the fear that they will be discriminated against for ties that in reality never materialized themselves to them in any way. A person who was born in Amman, always lived in Amman, and who has no relatives anywhere other than Amman will seek to sever the ancestral relationship he has with Palestine if others are going to hold it against him/her. I still think it’s wrong, or rather weak, but it is something that doesn’t come with no reason, and something that is largely not that person’s fault. It is the fault of the people who put too much emphasis (way more than required) on ancestral ties and use that as a basis for discrimination.

In your argument in this post, you also give too much emphasis to the ancestral relationship between some Jordanians and Palestine. They don’t have to say they are Palestinian, but that doesn’t mean that they will necessarily deny the relationship they have with Palestine.

One other thing to think about is this. I am a Jordanian, not a Palestinian, but my grandfather was not born in Jordan. The point you should think about is not why I identify myself as a Jordanian, the point you should think about is why I care so much about Palestine?! I don’t have a single drop of Palestinian blood in me, but I happen to be a muslim, and an Arab, and I believe I have, to a certain extent, the right to have a say in how justice should be achieved in Palestine. My point is that it shouldn’t matter where your family is from, whether you’re Syrian, Jordanian, Saudi or Palestinian, you should always stand for justice for all and if everybody just sticks to that simple principle that transcends racial, religous and national boundaries, you’ll soon find the whole world standing up for Palestine. So while you should encourage people to keep the Palestine issue alive and to promote the Palestinian identity, you should not drive others away by seeking to put boundaries between who is Palestinian and who is not.

Who Sane:

I understand you. I said I’m Jordanian/Palestinian. Just like American/Lebanese , British-Syrians. It’s ok.

Demolishing the Palestinian identity is a Zionist plan, a well-known declared one. It’s not a piece of cake to end the Palestinian identity, but unless we’re aware of this problem, Zionist will do more and more to demolish it, and they achieved a great deal already!

Jordan should never be a replacement, whether it’s 1984 or 1800. Having Jordan as a replacement for Palestine is not for the good of neither Jordanians nor Palestinians. It’s for the good of Zionists.

Jordan treated Palestinians generously, and king Hussien (allah yer7amo) gave us nationalities to help us have future and better lives so we can fight for our cause better. Neither Palestinians nor King Hussien want Jordan to be a replacement.!

think about it this way, if Palestinians accept Jordan as replacement, then they wouldn’t be allowed to claim the “right of return”.

Sorry, but there are 7 million Palestinian refugees scattered around the world, they can’t just be given nationalities and be shut up.

Yes, I’m a Jordanian citizen, proud of this citizenship, proud and grateful to be Jordanian. But I’m Palestinian as well, with a cause to stand for and with rights to claim.

got my point ??

Abed Hamdan, Mona: I’m not saying “don’t you dare say you’re Palestinian”, but If you’re nationality is in fact Jordanian, then you’re Jordanian. If you’re from a Palestinian origin, then you’re a Jordanian from a Palestinian origin.

Abed: If you’ve been living in Jordan since 1948 and 1967, then Jordan is your replacement!

Please don’t tell me you disagree with that because it will be just stubbornness.

In the end my friends, we’re all brothers and sisters, we’re truly one big family now. We’re so mixed that it’s just silly and stupid to stir up discord amongst us. And no attempts whatsoever should drive a wedge between Jordanians and Jordanians from a Palestinian origin.