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June 23, 2009 @ 4:22 pm | 13 comments

I was looking at the crowd

By: Mona
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I gave a heart breaking speech back in late 1982. I found old pictures from way back then. I know, funny how I find such poses of my self. :P

Old records from the media wrote that I commented on various issues such as the aftermath of the Lebanese-Israeli war, and the ongoing Lebanese Civil war. Why all the religious conflicts in the area? When will it ever end? Looking back now, as an 80’s child, I grew up hearing about middle east wars, and if there will ever be peace in the area. Haven’t we had enough? Over 25 years later, and the area is in more chaos than before and serious problems can ignite at anytime.

My little blog first female Arab leader elections is still on. ;) (Post 1, Post 2) Maybe you and I can make a difference, and let our children and children’s children live in a more peaceful world in this lifetime of ours.

Some people wanted to discuss politics, and I seldom get involved in such long debates. However, this post is an opportunity to discuss historical facts, modern facts, and current affairs in the area. I know the Iran Elections have caused a stir in the world, but the result of that election will effect the Arab world as well. So why not! Go ahead. I feel like debating.

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Comments (13) Trackbacks (1)
  1. Mona
    June 23rd, 2009 at 18:05 | #1
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    The moment I said let’s talk about politics, no one was jumping on the bang wagon to do so. I wonder why? :twisted:

    Oh oh.. I know why!! I won’t say why, but most of you understand why I shy away from politics.

  2. Moonstar Silverwolf
    June 23rd, 2009 at 18:30 | #2
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    I think most shy away from politics because it’s hard to state your opinion and then be challenged by someone who disagrees. With so many cultures & religious reasons why we make our choices, it’s hard to see eye to eye on many things. Although I am passionate about politics at times, I am more passionate about human freedom & condition & this shapes most of my desire to be political & I find that I am more able to bridge cultural gaps.

    However, here is why I think you may be hard pressed to get comments – you expect your readers to present their opinions without a question posed.

  3. Mona
    June 23rd, 2009 at 18:34 | #3
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    @Moonstar Silverwolf
    That’s why I didn’t put a question. I seldom get involved in it. So I am hoping someone is courageous enough to start a topic. I am really leaning towards the Iran situation since it is so current. What do you guys think of all this violence? Should someone interfere to end this?

  4. Moonstar Silverwolf
    June 23rd, 2009 at 18:41 | #4
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    I’ll help ya & state my opinion:

    Ultimately, the will of the people within it’s own borders must determine how they are governed. I think those of us outside of the events must do what we can to help give the oppressed a voice, and outlet & a way to escape. I do not think an outside country should impose their own will, military or government. I applaud the work of the journalists, internet savy & media networks as they help bring out the voice & images. I applaud the embassy’s for opening up for the injured. And, I hope there are preparations near the borders so if conditions worsen, there is proper humanitarian aide to give refugees. I believe in the end, the oppressed will overcome their oppressor as long as outside influence is not added. I believe this is why Palestinians are struggling because of the support Israel gets from other countries (including the US) that allows them to continue to build & keep their military strong.

  5. Mona
    June 23rd, 2009 at 18:44 | #5
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    @Moonstar Silverwolf
    Out of all that you said, the last sentence caught my eye. So, Israel is still there cause of outside interference and support? You think they would have lasted more than a few months if they didn’t?

  6. Mona
    June 23rd, 2009 at 18:48 | #6
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    So, I think the cause of most of the middle east problems is one thing. If no outside interference, hardly any of the major problems would have started. Don’t you think? Anyone disagree?

  7. Moonstar Silverwolf
    June 23rd, 2009 at 19:30 | #7
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    @Mona
    I think I understand what you are asking. I think Israel’s rule over Palestinians is only sustained due to the support from the outside world, which is why there has been a lot of pressure in the US to continue this support.

    I believe the strength of the Palestinians is a force that is unmatched by most in this world & I think Israel’s inhumane treatment, occupation & oppression is all geared to keep the strength in check. This is why I have deep respect for any Palestinian.

  8. Dwacon
    June 23rd, 2009 at 21:09 | #8
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    Amazing.

  9. Brian
    June 24th, 2009 at 00:18 | #9
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    i heard from some random media source one day (cant remember which one and i don’t know the trustworthiness of the info, and it definitely wasn’t rupert murdochs Fox News…fat@$$) anwho
    Osama bin laden was part of the saudi royal family and he went to the government proposing that the Iraqi war should not be led by foreigners but by fellow arabs. Supposedly they didn’t like this idea, expelled him, and cut off his revenues. :money:
    Thus beginning the supposed jihad by his militant group.
    I think one of the main reasons America is still in Iraq is to protect Israel. I have no opinion on this due to the fact that i have good friends on both borders, but if the USA did leave Iraq i would fear for the protection of Israel…and yes i do have compassion for both sides, but palestine needs to get its land back… :roll:
    I do have much respect for palestine and its future, but i feel a deep seeded war would be under way against all of israel and the opposing forces of the middle east.

    Does the rest of the middle east care enough about palestine? Does America want war against Palestine?….it seems so as we keep funding the terrorists who have bombed the poor people of Palestine over and over. :vangry:

  10. Ahmed Masri
    June 24th, 2009 at 05:43 | #10
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    Is it coincidence that these protests have occurred the 4th time Ahmadinijad won an election, the first Iranian election after President Obama took his seat of office? A president who by the way is more closely aligned with the banking and industrial establishments than Bush (look at his cabinet).

    Iranian protests so soon after new rhetoric by the US Government? Coincidence?

    Let me say this.. if the protests in Iran turn to revolution, and a change of government, then World War 3 is averted for a a few more years. However, if the protests fail to change the incumbent government, then World War 3 is inevitable, and soon.

    We are being led to a society where people are addicted to soma (media) and are slaves to the status quo (debt) whereby only a few groups of people, way at the top, benefit.

    I know, I know. Another conspiracy nut, right? wrong. This is just pure economics. If you were the president of the leading economic policy setting country in the world and your country is no longer able to sustain itself, what would you do? Throw the towel in and hope for the best? Now imagine you are not simply an individual but a whole group of like minded individuals whose livelihoods are at risk. What would you (all of you) do?

    We are at the turn of a new age in humanity. One that will be defined by how we distribute and utilize the planet’s resources. The middle east will become the center of the post-modern world. It is here that the fates of many countries will be determined.

    And let us be very aware of what is currently taking place: 85% of the middle east is ruled by weak, illegitimate, corrupt governments who do very little for their own people (the bare minimum). The other 15% is impotent. Israel is a volatile and trigger happy country highly depended on foreign aid and used as an open wound against the Arab people (the easier to keep them angry and ultimately controlled). The USA (and by extension NATO, the future world police force), currently have military bases and strategic launch pads in both Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as bases in Bahrain and Qatar. The French have recently signed a deal to open a base in the UAE. Russia is desperately trying to expand it’s reach through Caucasia. Even China is investing heavily in Africa! The U.N. is useless, being made even more useless everyday with increasing bureaucratic red tape, leaving NATO to clean up the mess (don’t believe me, research the Kosovo war). Lebanon being/been separated from Syria. The Iranian people are suspiciously increasing their calls for reform. Pakistan is fighting a new emergence of the Taliban and recently had to agree to new IMF loans with crippling stipulations (Why are they raising their interest rates while the rest of the world is trying to lower them due to the current global recession?).

    Here’s an interesting side note. Somali Pirates. Potentially very embarrassing for some western governments. I read a story in a couple of newspapers after one ship was hijacked that claimed the ship contained heavy arms to be delivered to South Sudan via Kenya. The story disappeared soon after.

  11. Hicham
    June 24th, 2009 at 07:41 | #11
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    Politics ya Mona!

    I don’t know what to say about it excpet we’ve too much of it since 1798 when Napoleon concourd Egypt. Since then, ME became on of the major focal/strategic areas of the world. Things became more complicated in the 20th century either in the 1st half when all the countries were ruled under Great Britan, France & Italy or in the 2nd half when the arab countries got their independence and oil appeared in the area.

    You can never debate on how things go there because they move according to the balances between various powers inside/outside ME thus you can never understand what’s going on, who is with who and who is aganist who and that’s why it doesn’t matter for me at all.

    As simple as that.

  12. Sugar Cribs
    June 24th, 2009 at 08:56 | #12
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    you are so cute :D

  13. Mona
    June 24th, 2009 at 10:09 | #13
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    @Ahmed Masri
    Wow.. you do point out some good points. I agree with you 100%

    @everyone else

    You guys made me think a lot about the future of the mid east. I think we just have to be really careful now, and see how things will change. I just hope that 2010 and beyond won’t get any worse. :sad:

  1. June 23rd, 2009 at 16:57 | #1
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