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September 12, 2009 @ 9:08 pm | 22 comments

Love at first conversation

By: Mona
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Some of you are wondering why I have not written anything the past couple of days. You can say I was suffering from a severe depression episode (don’t want to drizzle your evening with boredom of the reason why), and I felt that words on the internet will not make me seem like a pleasant Rebellious Arab Girl, but more of a well-hated one. So, I kept my distance, but a watchful eye on my blog’s active debates regarding the indisputable marriage questions.

patience

Anyways, let me discuss the subject that I was thinking about instead of a depression rant. I want to point out something that I noticed regarding the opposite gender. I am not sure if I want to stereotype this towards only Arab guys, or guys in general, or just a selected few. I don’t really know. All I know is that some guys have severe problems with people accepting them right away. They are in desperate need for a girl to accept them right away, or they will end it without saying a word. If a girl does not show interest right away and goes beyond the friendly conversation to actually loving the guy, then the guy ends it faster then the speed of light.

Self esteem issues? Acceptance issues? Impatience issues? He must find a girl that loves him ever so quickly because he cannot stand his life anymore!

Maybe that’s the problem with people and relationships. Everyone wants things so fast, and do not want to get to know the other person at all. Some guys don’t even bother to answer any questions that the girl may ask him about life or anything. He just ignores it and wants to talk about his feelings and if the girl loves him already. What if that cute girl with crazy thoughts is a bit, oh how can I say this, PATIENT? Has all the time in the world to get to know someone, and does not believe that rushing into anything is any good?

I sound like a bad highschool guidance councilor. I don’t even remember ever going to mine. I didn’t like my highschool.

You guys get my point? Some guys have no patience. They want things now, or they will end it. However, you know what pisses them off? When you act like it didn’t bother you, and you didn’t bother to ask him why he did it, and what the problem is? Because if the girl is smart, she wouldn’t ask and would right away know what the problem is. Somehow, that makes the guy wonder why you didn’t ask, and he comes back crawling all on all fours trying to figure it out.

I think for life to move along in a more positive direction, we need to learn about that thing called patience. I used to have no patience growing up; however, I had to learn it the hard way, or all what is left from the 4 or 5 handful of brain cells in me will be dissolved quickly into thin air. Actually, I got like 2 or 3 handfuls. But who is counting?

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Comments (22) Trackbacks (5)
  1. Moonstar Silverwolf
    September 12th, 2009 at 22:05 | #1
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    I loved this post, although I hope you get out of your depression.

    I’ve come to the same conclusion as you – if guys would let go of their ego, have patience & actually take the time to listen to the girl when she talks they would have a whole lot easier time with “getting the girl.” The foundation of every relationship is friendship, so develop your friendship with each other and stop worrying about love, sexuality or attraction.

  2. Kitty
    September 12th, 2009 at 22:17 | #2
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    I have had to learn patience the hard way too,Mona.It feels great to have patience,but some people are a little too laid back in my opinion.Are you quite sure you might not be?

    I have found walking a great cure for depression,the longer the walk all the better.I do not think that women should jog,it is not good to jar the breasts.

  3. Kitty
    September 12th, 2009 at 22:21 | #3
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    I am very impressed with your insightful writing Mona.

  4. Incandescent Chimera
    September 12th, 2009 at 23:16 | #4
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    Hi Mona, I love this post… its very insightful and deep. I reckon some guys find it difficult to be in a relationship because they think the relationship is all about taking and not giving… or they give little and expect more in return which is wrong… because relationships are about patience, mutual understanding and in some cases (the constance of willing to give endlessly and having reassurance in your heart that you will receive a good feeling within yourself just by your partner simply giving back). Though this may be small and have no materialistic gain whatsoever the fact that you are interacting together makes the relationship significant. Then slowly thing begin to build up. Attraction, sexuality and love gradually build from there.

    P.S. I hope you get over your depression. Cheer up and relax. We all love reading what you have to share with us :grin:

  5. Brian
    September 12th, 2009 at 23:55 | #5
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    i know im preaching to the awesome (and beautiful :) choir but you have forever to get to know someone. if you fall in love instantly great, but i think the real relationships begin in a steady climb. some say friendships are the first step, and its true, but i think getting to know the family is the first true step. you want to be with someone your whole life, so prove it by at least loving and appreciating the family. but who am i to say the final word, ive had a meaningful relationship based on love at first site and it was wonderful, so it is possible my fair Arabian princess.
    Smile Mona, you are loved, by me, and of course by Allah Subhanna wa ta Allah. :sad:

  6. HOBO(nickname)
    September 13th, 2009 at 00:19 | #6
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    When a person is a child s/he never ask such questions And he/she is loved by people And he/she love everybody.
    The question is why s/he start asking when he grows up.
    Because s/he lost the child within.
    One has to find the child within And at least questions about LOVE will be stopped And love will be a discovery.
    cheers !!!

  7. nasser
    September 13th, 2009 at 00:54 | #7
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    I think that bay far this has been the most constructive written piece I have read on this blog. Yes, I have to agree that guys seek acceptance. Especially on the internet which speaks wonders about the social diconnection that we live in today. However in regards to mons wrote about guys not giving girls a chance I Think that is only in north America, mainly because dating here is subjected by all these rules. For instance, if we do kiss on the third date , we are friends. Should I call first, or should I wait for her, how long do I wait. Dinner is romantic and lunch is only for friends. In Europe or Latin America ( based on Personal experience) that situation differes by far. There is not much of these rules. Although People are much more premscious. In the Arab world, well it depends to approch girl you usually have it setup with her friends and you would meet in a group of friends and then you talk about dumbshit etc …. So guys tend to follow those rules. And in the process they tend to think about the “game” that they forget about the main idea of this whole things and that is her…. Then there the socially handicapped guys who developed alter egos on the internet and begin cyber fucking dating. And speak about high school as if this is a segement from “American pie”

  8. maarten
    September 13th, 2009 at 15:03 | #8
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    I do
    not judge
    a book by its cover
    and
    my wife
    is a good book
    but I have finished it.

    Twice.

  9. Mona
    September 13th, 2009 at 20:07 | #9
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    @Moonstar Silverwolf
    I don’t think many people think that friendship is the foundation of a relationship. I don’t know why, but maybe it wouldn’t harm if they tried to be friends first. Maybe they would see things differently later on in life.

  10. Mona
    September 13th, 2009 at 20:09 | #10
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    @Kitty
    When I am depressed, I go for a walk too. It helps a LOT!

    Thanks! :)

  11. Mona
    September 13th, 2009 at 20:12 | #11
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    @Incandescent Chimera
    Wise words my friends! :)

  12. Mona
    September 13th, 2009 at 20:13 | #12
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    @Brian
    Aww thanks.. :) So love at first sight eh? How is that going for you? :P

  13. Mona
    September 13th, 2009 at 20:14 | #13
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    @HOBO(nickname)
    Interesting observation there.

  14. Mona
    September 13th, 2009 at 20:17 | #14
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    @nasser
    Hmm.. you got some good points there.. I agree with the whole messed up Arab ideology regarding dating and relationships, but what can we do? The way they think will not change over night.

  15. Mona
    September 13th, 2009 at 20:18 | #15
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    @maarten
    Twice eh? What about the thrice time?

  16. Brian
    September 13th, 2009 at 21:34 | #16
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    @Mona

    well…that reationship was my first true love experience, but it ended when i moved to Prague. :cry:
    I’ve never stopped loving her though.
    There are still plenty of good guys out there…the problem is that they are stuck in front of the screen. :razz:

  17. Ferrahs
    September 14th, 2009 at 11:29 | #17
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    Would this sound weird if I were to say that I am a guy who was put into a situation with an impatient arab girl..? She stopped talking to me because I “took to long to marry her.” (according to her sister) I thought we were getting along great and were on the same page.. Regardless… I actually have constant arguments with my parents regarding this matter. They would like me to go back oversees and meet, love, and marry the person I will call my other half in oohhhh….3 weeks or so.. Because they know some girls. I can’t seem to allow myself to conform to this thinking. I want to meet someone without the proposition of marriage on the table, I don’t want my first thoughts to be that.. There are guys still like me, trust me, we look beyond appearance and deeper into personality, charm, loyalty..etc. Speaking for myself, I have been in 3 situations where I am put into a friendship with someone and we decide that we are great together, but once we discuss this, things change.. More on thier part, they now want proof that I will commit, and if we talk about waiting then I don’t love her enough. For me, I have a philosophy that I will get married as soon as I am able to provide for a family comfortably and be able to give us an enjoyable life. (so if she doesn’t understand that or trust me, then she doesn’t love me enough..) But let me tell you something about Arab girls, we are conditioned to believe that girls have an “expiration date” lets call it at age 25.. Its sad, but girls (at least where i’m from) live by this decree, they have to get married to not be talked about or disgrace their families.. So its not only the men who cant commit or dump someone at the speed of light, i’ve had it happen to me twice.. Just saying you know. Maybe this will make you feel a little better, because I know ther are guys that think the way I do, so keep your head up.

  18. Mona
    September 14th, 2009 at 11:35 | #18
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    @Ferrahs
    Oh I know, Arab girls are even more impatient at times, and have this idea that “they don’t have time to fool around.” I hear ya!

  19. mais
    September 14th, 2009 at 11:57 | #19
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    are u serious about getting married before 25? so hang on, if u expire once ur 25, and u get married, what happens? do you continue to expire or do you stop expiring once your married? what if you get divorced? do you start fermenting again? how does this work, explain! When does a guy expire? And does anyone know any girls personally that believe these fairytales? So what happens after you get married, let saying you marry before youre expiry date? lol!

  20. Mona
    September 14th, 2009 at 12:00 | #20
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    @mais
    Expiry dates are the most used tools to determine if the girl is still fertile you know. :x

  21. mais
    September 14th, 2009 at 12:07 | #21
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    yeah but you can have kids until at least 40. and since most ppl these days dont like having more than 2 kids, you dont really need to get married till your in youre thirties, and thats if you want kids! So why would you even want to get married to someone who considers you, or whose family considers you a baby machine? How strange.

  22. Mona
    September 14th, 2009 at 12:21 | #22
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    @mais
    You are preaching to the choir my friend!

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