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		<title>By: Mais</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, are you really surprised? Most religions promote sexism of varying degrees. The only reason why women in europe/usa achieved better (relative) equality is because they went against religious teachings. Most religious Islamic states violate mutltiple international human rights charters just by being Islamic and observing Islamic laws. Islamic sharia law is &#039;&#039;double standard&#039;&#039; because women dont have equal political, economic, marital, custodial, and social rights. Quite simple really. 

If everyone just read sharia law it would all be soo much easier because girls born into muslim families would know their situation, women marrying muslim men/converting to islam wouldnt suffer from shock and women that choose to be muslim and say their proud have to deal with all the responsibilities that comes with accepting a religion like that. Everyone has free WILL, the Quran isnt an equal opportunities religion, take it or leave it!

amen =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, are you really surprised? Most religions promote sexism of varying degrees. The only reason why women in europe/usa achieved better (relative) equality is because they went against religious teachings. Most religious Islamic states violate mutltiple international human rights charters just by being Islamic and observing Islamic laws. Islamic sharia law is &#8221;double standard&#8221; because women dont have equal political, economic, marital, custodial, and social rights. Quite simple really. </p>
<p>If everyone just read sharia law it would all be soo much easier because girls born into muslim families would know their situation, women marrying muslim men/converting to islam wouldnt suffer from shock and women that choose to be muslim and say their proud have to deal with all the responsibilities that comes with accepting a religion like that. Everyone has free WILL, the Quran isnt an equal opportunities religion, take it or leave it!</p>
<p>amen =)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read in An-Nisa the other day surah 15 &amp; 16 which says that women who commit adultery, and have four witnesses, shall be confined until death. The next Surah says something along the lines of two people who are lewd will be punished. 
As much as I love and respect my din, it has some double standards such as this. So the women is jailed, but the man is &#039;punished&#039; and then shown mercy? wtf
I&#039;m still with Mona on the point that the man should avert his glance and ill intentions away from the women, hijab or no hijab. Remember, Allah looks at intent of heart more than anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read in An-Nisa the other day surah 15 &amp; 16 which says that women who commit adultery, and have four witnesses, shall be confined until death. The next Surah says something along the lines of two people who are lewd will be punished.<br />
As much as I love and respect my din, it has some double standards such as this. So the women is jailed, but the man is &#8216;punished&#8217; and then shown mercy? wtf<br />
I&#8217;m still with Mona on the point that the man should avert his glance and ill intentions away from the women, hijab or no hijab. Remember, Allah looks at intent of heart more than anything.</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>khurshid:

Which hadith defends muslim mens harrassment and aggressive bullying of muslim women? 

It wasnÂ´t many decades ago that many muslim countries didnÂ´t allow women to go to school, they meant that acording to the Quran women weÂ´re forbidden to do so.. It seems as if some muslim men teach the religion through a male perspective?

Investigations in for example Egypt shows that women regardless of dress, both with and without hijabs or more or less covered, get harassed by men. Some men in muslim countries even tell they find it more thrilling to harrass more covered women. It seems that itÂ´s the women that get to take the burden, the blame and the harrassment in the crossfire and due to the tensions that builds up, when Men of different nationalities, religions and cultures want control, and use and treat &quot;Their&quot; women as gadgets, weapons and symbols of that Nation, Culture or Religion - instead as humans, in a neverending male fight &quot;We&quot; against &quot;Them&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>khurshid:</p>
<p>Which hadith defends muslim mens harrassment and aggressive bullying of muslim women? </p>
<p>It wasnÂ´t many decades ago that many muslim countries didnÂ´t allow women to go to school, they meant that acording to the Quran women weÂ´re forbidden to do so.. It seems as if some muslim men teach the religion through a male perspective?</p>
<p>Investigations in for example Egypt shows that women regardless of dress, both with and without hijabs or more or less covered, get harassed by men. Some men in muslim countries even tell they find it more thrilling to harrass more covered women. It seems that itÂ´s the women that get to take the burden, the blame and the harrassment in the crossfire and due to the tensions that builds up, when Men of different nationalities, religions and cultures want control, and use and treat &#8220;Their&#8221; women as gadgets, weapons and symbols of that Nation, Culture or Religion &#8211; instead as humans, in a neverending male fight &#8220;We&#8221; against &#8220;Them&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Online London &#8211; 2009/11/01 &#8211; From My Bottom Step</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online London &#8211; 2009/11/01 &#8211; From My Bottom Step</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a person does not wear the hijab, that does not mean that the person is bad, completely lost their way, or whatever. I don&#039;t know why some people are hung up on this. I don&#039;t think wearing the hijab is the one single quality or litmus test that defines whether a person is Muslim or not. And they can positively contribute a lot to work and society either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a person does not wear the hijab, that does not mean that the person is bad, completely lost their way, or whatever. I don&#8217;t know why some people are hung up on this. I don&#8217;t think wearing the hijab is the one single quality or litmus test that defines whether a person is Muslim or not. And they can positively contribute a lot to work and society either way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-49060&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@khurshid&lt;/a&gt; 
You know what? Although you wasted your time writing all this, I didn&#039;t read or ever will. Too long. Sorry. It seems like a whiny post. Next time summarize what you are whining about. 

Oh by the way. I suggest you stop commenting on my site if you think so negatively of me. If you continue this, I will just delete your long comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-49060" rel="nofollow">@khurshid</a><br />
You know what? Although you wasted your time writing all this, I didn&#8217;t read or ever will. Too long. Sorry. It seems like a whiny post. Next time summarize what you are whining about. </p>
<p>Oh by the way. I suggest you stop commenting on my site if you think so negatively of me. If you continue this, I will just delete your long comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Mais</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khurshid,youre argument holds not merit. You do know youre writing on a public blog, in which everyone can see youre post. Not just me, but the whole world. This is not a private conversation. 

Again, your argument appears to be irrational because Ive just been supporting palestinian children.

Yeah offcourse go to any number of websites arabhumanrights.org, merip.org, LHRLA, (Indrani Sinha, SANLAAP India, &quot;Paper on Globalization and Human Rights&quot;, (read that, 11-13 ear old pakistani girls getting trafficked to uae, qatar, etc) there are a few good articles on iraqi+jordanian prostitution by rana husseini, johann hari. Child prostitution is highest in the world in asia, over 50%. If you studied international relations however this wouldnt be a surprise to you at all. 

But forget prostitution, it happens everywhere in the world. You talked about education, well gender parity in the arab world as a whole is among the lowest in the world, only beaten by south and west asia. I think alot of people see high rates of child birth negatively, because statistically, in the world, higher birth rates are directly related to female illiteracy. So on average an illiterate woman has 8 babies, a literate woman has 3. That is not to say that you cant have 10 babies and be educated, its just very rare. Thats also why education is seen as a good way to tackle overpopulation.

At the end of the day though, none of this will really be important because as I said before on another post the muslim world is undergoing a huge population explosion coupled with other things which make the problems they face in the future much more severe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khurshid,youre argument holds not merit. You do know youre writing on a public blog, in which everyone can see youre post. Not just me, but the whole world. This is not a private conversation. </p>
<p>Again, your argument appears to be irrational because Ive just been supporting palestinian children.</p>
<p>Yeah offcourse go to any number of websites arabhumanrights.org, merip.org, LHRLA, (Indrani Sinha, SANLAAP India, &#8220;Paper on Globalization and Human Rights&#8221;, (read that, 11-13 ear old pakistani girls getting trafficked to uae, qatar, etc) there are a few good articles on iraqi+jordanian prostitution by rana husseini, johann hari. Child prostitution is highest in the world in asia, over 50%. If you studied international relations however this wouldnt be a surprise to you at all. </p>
<p>But forget prostitution, it happens everywhere in the world. You talked about education, well gender parity in the arab world as a whole is among the lowest in the world, only beaten by south and west asia. I think alot of people see high rates of child birth negatively, because statistically, in the world, higher birth rates are directly related to female illiteracy. So on average an illiterate woman has 8 babies, a literate woman has 3. That is not to say that you cant have 10 babies and be educated, its just very rare. Thats also why education is seen as a good way to tackle overpopulation.</p>
<p>At the end of the day though, none of this will really be important because as I said before on another post the muslim world is undergoing a huge population explosion coupled with other things which make the problems they face in the future much more severe.</p>
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		<title>By: khurshid</title>
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		<dc:creator>khurshid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mais

When a Muslim talks about Islam it is hysterical and emotional ranting. When a Zionist talks about Holocaust of Palestinian it is just fine. 

I wrote the post for Mona. It was specifically address to mona not you. Reading mail/post not addressed to you is HIGHLY UNETHICAL. if my post was not addressed to anyone then it would be ok for you to read. When it was specially addressed to Mona you should not have read it.

â€œevery single arab gulf country is filled with prostitutesâ€ how did you get that information. Can you prove it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mais</p>
<p>When a Muslim talks about Islam it is hysterical and emotional ranting. When a Zionist talks about Holocaust of Palestinian it is just fine. </p>
<p>I wrote the post for Mona. It was specifically address to mona not you. Reading mail/post not addressed to you is HIGHLY UNETHICAL. if my post was not addressed to anyone then it would be ok for you to read. When it was specially addressed to Mona you should not have read it.</p>
<p>â€œevery single arab gulf country is filled with prostitutesâ€ how did you get that information. Can you prove it?</p>
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		<title>By: khurshid</title>
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		<dc:creator>khurshid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOWARDS WOMEN! Why men donâ€™t follow that? You know how many insults Muslim and Arab men give me daily while they preach religion to me? Not only that. EVEN THE STARES I get from them! Why they donâ€™t follow this verse??? Or are they allowed to look?

There is a very simple explanation to this. When Muslim men around you tell you not to dress the way you dress it is because according to prophetic tradition a believer is a mirror to another believer. The prophet (PBUM) and his companions corrected fellow Muslims when they saw those Muslims are doing things that contradicted or violated Islamic teachings. You should not think that the Muslim men are staring at your body. Sometimes it is the shock of seeing a Muslim so blatantly transgressing ALLAHâ€™s will that makes unorthodox expression of outrage. It is just like dealing with racism. If the victims of racism did not stand up against racism than even today skin color would not become a secondary issue. By rising up against racism the victims CORRECTED the problem of racism for themselves and for future generations.

Having said that i would sympathies with you on one ground, that is, those Muslims who insult you in a rude or violent language are wrong as well because prophet (PBUH) always showed by actions that a Muslim should express his/her views in a polite and non-violent way i.e. no cursing, no â€˜Fâ€™ word, no â€˜Sâ€™ word, no â€˜Aâ€™ word etc.

Second, you are angry at Arab and Muslim men for looking at the way you are dressed, in other words you are upset at why are they not following the teaching of the verse you quoted. But what about you mona? Are you following ALLAHâ€™s commandments of covering yourself? Shouldnâ€™t you follow the verse I quoted before expecting others to follow the verse you quoted? 

Third, if you see someone violating ALLAHâ€™s commands then YOU MONA have to correct them because if you do not do it than in the Day of Judgment ALLAH will hold you accountable for not telling the person doing wrong that he/she is doing wrong. Allah did not ask any Muslim to force others to correct themselves but Muslims are commanded to stand up against wrong.

â€œWhat is apparent exactly? This is purely debatable!!â€ To understand the verse correctly we have to look into the prophetâ€™s (PBUH) life. How did he practice this verse? Remember Allah has sent the prophet as an example to mankind. If we look at prophetâ€™s (PBUH) life and see what he taught his female SAHABIS than we can see very clearly that all Muslim women of his time covered themselves from head to their feet with exceptions of additional rules that applied to prophetâ€™s (PBUH) wives. Why do we Muslims have to DEBATE this verse now when prophet has stated the meaning of the verse himself through numerous examples. I do not understand this? Is the prophet (PBUH) not good enough for us?

The reason that we Muslims have started to debate certain verses of Quran is because western media and their regimes attack our beautiful Islam by picking verses that they can use to distort Islam. Did you know western academics do not study the HADITH of prophet when they become specialist on Islamic studies. To them HADITH means nothing. This is not a conspiracy theory. Last year I went back to university to study Islam in order to enrich my understanding of my DIN. Luckily (thanks ALLAH) I chose a university where all the teachers were Muslims except two. It was during this course that became clear how westerns manipulate verses of Quran to confuse Muslims and create anti-Islam sentiment. So, MONA, we should not have to DEBATE a verse all over again after 14 centuries because if we do then we are making the SUNNAH of prophet (PBUH) irrelevant. As Muslims we should never take this path.

Palestine

â€œ..you Muslims nations didnâ€™t care about the holy land and Zionist killing my peopleâ€
â€œMuslim children in Palestine are being killed and you Muslim nations and people are just watching. You have been watching for over 60 years!â€
â€œArenâ€™t we Muslims supposed to help other Muslims?â€

I donâ€™t know how you came to this conclusion that Muslim nations are just watching the massacre of Palestinian Muslims for last 60 years without helping them. Muslims around the world are trying with everything they can to help Palestinian Muslims, be it with money, food, medicine, or DUA. It is not the Muslims who are not helping but it is the ARAB REGIMES who are not helping and just watching. Had these Arab regimes cared about Islam and Muslims then Israel and Zionism would have vanished long time ago. When Israel was committing genocide in GAZA in the recent war the ARAB REGIMES remained silent in action and WATCHED and WANTED Israel to murder Gaza Muslims and their elected representative HAMAS. Gaza Muslims had to be punished for the crime of electing Hamas and Hamas for the crime of being DEMOCRATICALLY elected. It is not in the interest of Arab regimes to see an elected government in Palestine as that would put pressure on their political master Israel &amp; US and would undermine their legitimacy of power â€“ in other words their survival is at stake. An elected Palestinian government would invite voices in other Arab countries for free elections. The SAUDIS REGIME, guardian of kabba and medina, made sure emergency meeting of OIC did not take place and was delayed for two weeks to allow Israel to continue CALCULATED MURDER OF MUSLIMS IN PALESTINE. When OIC meeting did take place Saudis did not even show up. The EGYPTIAN REGIME closed the border with GAZA and did not allow even the basic food and medicine to go through RAFA terminal let alone military help.

The only MUSLIM COUNTRY that did every thing in its power to help GAZA MUSLIMS was IRAN. It voiced open condemnation and even sent a ship full of food and medicine to gaza which was intercepted by EGTPTIAN NAVY and not allowed to enter gaza port. Iranian government and press denounced Egypt for keeping the border closed. Iran asked Egypt repeatedly to open the border so that Iranian help, both humanitarian and military, can be channeled to Palestinian Muslims in Gaza. It was Iranian president MAHMOOD AHMADINIJAZAD who said in many international platforms that why is Israel created in Palestine. Jews were killed by the GERMANS and they should pay the price. Why are the western powers punishing Palestinian Muslims for a crime they did not commit. Why has Israel being created in Palestine?  It should be created in Germany where the Jews were killed. Why is Germany not giving up one or two of its states/provinces to create Israel? (check YouTube for Ahmadinizadâ€™s debate in a Washington university). All Arab regimes, US regime, European regimes, and US think tanks admit that if Iran had direct or indirect land border with Palestine than Palestine would have been liberated from occupation long, long, long time ago. Success of Hizbollah to end Israeli occupation of Lenanon has become possible due to Iranian indirect land border access to Lebanon through Syria â€“ an Iranian allay. MONA, Muslims nations are not guilty but rather ARAB REGIMES are the guilty one. Even your own Palestinian MAHMOOD ABBAS was watching the massacre of gaza Muslims and kept inactive during the entire carnage. He even went as far as to blame hamas for the death of gaza Muslims. Palestinian telegraph published two weeks ago questioning if Abbas is a real president as his actions are always to please Israel and US. Abbas even didnâ€™t want the goldstone report on Israel crime in gaza to be discussed in United nations human right committee. One of your OWN does not care about your suffering and you accuse me and Muslim nations for not caring; STRANGE VERY STRANGE. I donâ€™t know if you genuinely donâ€™t know the political facts or you are just saying this just to get back at me. Allah knows best

As far as me is concerned I am fully aware of the suffering of Muslim UMMAH in Palestine and in other parts of the world- Iraq, Afghanistan, .Kazakhstan, Kashmir, Pakistan, Myanmar, China, Philippine, Bosinia etc I have participated with every bit of help I can do through Islamic relief, Muslim Aid, and UN humanitarian agencies to help my sisters and brothers in Palestine. I regularly attend academic seminars, anti-war movement seminars, and visiting Palestinian students and academic seminars to ensure that that suffering of the ummah is highlighted and world public opinion is mobilized against the Israeli crimes.

I spent a bulk of my daily time reading news, academic journals and think tank publications about middle-east politics. People who know me well tell me that I should have studied international relations because despite not being from this background I can give political analysis of middle-east current affairs. Last year when I was doing a masters degree on Islam I was repeatedly told by academics to study something with political science or international relations since I have so much interest in it. That way I can better represent Muslim interest. I am writing a proposal for a PHD in the area of Islamic international relations. Insha-allah if everything goes right I will start next year.

Anyway, the point of saying all this is to assure you I am not those Muslims who have forgotten the bleeding wound of Palestine. I am doing everything in my power to help Muslims as are so many other Muslims I know off. We have not FORGOTTEN the Palestinian brothers and sisters. They are very much alive in our hearts.

Prophet (PBUH) has said that a day will come when Jerusalem (Al-Qods) will be liberated and suffering of Muslims in Palestine will end. Muslim will be divided initially but eventually they will pull themselves together and liberate Al-Qods. These are saying of the prophet (PBUH). I just donâ€™t know if I or you will live long enough to see that beautiful day. If we do who knows we might meet in Palestine in front of Masjid Al-Aqsa. Insha-allah.

Job

â€œI have to change my life and traditions for the sake of survival. If it means I donâ€™t wear a hijab to get a job to support my self and my family, but still keep my morals and religious beliefs, then I am sticking to this lifestyle. I am not going to change my apparent modest lifestyle to a more conservative one than I already have to sit at home. I didnâ€™t need to get an education to sit at home because the world around me is racist and wonâ€™t hire me.â€

â€œAlso, I cannot force an entire culture to accept me for being different. All I can do is find a middle ground to keep my morals and religious beliefs and still fit in.â€

On the topic of job, as I said in my previous comment Muslims should not compromise Allahâ€™s commandments under any circumstances. If they do this then they are living for DUNIYA not for Allah. A convert friend of mine left his teaching job in mainstream school to work in Islamic schools for half the salary of mainstream school. I asked him why he has done this? He said that in mainstream school there were many topics being taught to children that were head-on-clash with Islamic teachings and he being converted to Islam did not feel right to associated with such teachings. He would rather get less paid than disobey Allah and his messenger. I can tell you I was deeply touched and spiritually uplifted by this brotherâ€™s explanation.  I told myself I should also try harder to live for Allah and not for DUNIYA. Just like you, I have achieved undergraduate degree in computer science from a world class university, I also have a masters in computer science (The degree I did on Islam was my second masters degree) but never got the job I wanted to get because of my religion and to some degree my color and ethnic background. WESTERN DEMOCRACY AT ITS FINEST, HOW STRANGE. However, I have no sadness in my heart because I always pray to Allah not to give me any job where I have to compromise or break any of his commandments. Alhamdulliah, Allah has taken care of me and I have a job with which I can survive respectfully.

Yvonne Ridly, the British journalist captured by Taliban in Afghanistan, who later converted to Islam and was fired from Saudi owned Islam channel because she criticized Saudi regime. However, Allah has given her much better journalistic career in PressTv - Iranian 24 hours English news channel. She has her own show in current affairs where she regularly discusses issues about Muslim suffering including Palestine. She covered, on behalf of PressTv, British MP George Gallowayâ€™s heroic effort taking humanitarian aid to gaza by breaking Israeli sanctions and handing it over to hamas the elected government of gaza. Allah has rewarded her for wearing hijab and so what she does not work for BBC and other pro-zionist media outlets.

The point of saying this is that you should not trade Islamic lifestyle to get a job. If you ask Allah from your heart He will definitely provide means to meat your needs.

The bit I particularly found OFFENSIVE is that when you said Muslimas in Hijab cannot work in a group. What this means is, hijabi muslimas are somehow inferior and Muslim women should blend in by dressing according to the norms of society they live in. As I said before there is no such teaching in Islam. Allah nor His prophet (PBUH) ever said directly or indirectly that Muslims can BLEND in to please societyâ€™s demands. Does this mean if Canadians decides that from now on everybody should go to office naked than Muslim men and women should blend in with societyâ€™s norm and start going to office naked? Will this be Islam? My entire argument was here which I think you have missed.  Muslims need to dress according to Allahâ€™s wish both men and women. It is not a choice. When you said - â€œI donâ€™t need to wear anything that secludes me from the normâ€ â€“ that is the problem. You are NO-ONE to say you do not need to when Allah says you have to. It is not debatable and I have explained it earlier. If you had said I â€œdonâ€™t want toâ€ than it would be a different case because that would mean you accept the commandments of Allah regarding wearing hijab but you are ignoring it to keep your job. However, when you say â€œI donâ€™t need toâ€ than it means, by a simple deduction reasoning, that Prophet and sahabas and tabains and tabay-tabins and those after them for last 14 centuries did not understand the ALLAHâ€™s Commandments. THAT IS A VERY BIG CLAIM AND A DANGEROUS ONE TOO. When I saw your post the other day I could not believe my eyes. There you were a Muslim blatantly denying Allahâ€™s will and worst you are from Palestine â€“the very place Muslims like me feel so dear and feel strongly to defend against western and Israeli aggression. I told myself what kind of people Muslims all over the world are passionately trying to help when one of them from Palestine does not hesitate to claim that hijab can be removed if one wishes!!

The other thing about babies which I forgot to mention yesterday so I am mentioning it now. I found your statement â€œSo, what happened to those girls? Well, they all got married, sat at home, and popped out babies.â€ RUDE because is this how MOTHERHOOD should be expressed â€œpopped out babiesâ€. Can we say the prophetâ€™s mother popped him out? ASTAK-FIRULLAH. 
MONA, i hope you can see the points I was trying to make. I am not engaging in futile debate. Allah is watching, I do not engage in debates just for the sake of debates. You wrote sometime wrong about Islam and I had to correct you because if I didnâ€™t in the Day of Judgment I will be hold accountable for letting a wrong interpretation of Islam to be posted on the internet when I knew it was wrong and did nothing. Now I have pointed it out to you and my conscious is clear, I can tell ALLAH that I have done my duty.

Education

I didnâ€™t need to get an education to sit at home because the world around me is racist and wonâ€™t hire me. Itâ€™s enough the world is racist and prejudice towards women and other races. I was forced to get an education because it says so in my religion that we all must get educated! Men and Women. How many backwards extremist Muslims still think that a women should not even get educated and just sit at home and take care of the family? Till now, there is a high rate of Muslim women who cannot read or write! 

I have never said you should not study and should sit at home. You misunderstood my entire argument. In fact I am a VERY STRONG supporter of female education. I have on several occasions successfully influenced Muslim parents to continue educating their daughters after age of 16 by sending them to colleges and universities. In my own family my sisters are highly educated and constantly encourage family Muslimas- cousins, aunts, etc- to study in universities. I tell them if I can do it you can do it too. As you rightly pointed out Allah and His messenger has repeatedly asked Muslim men and women to seek knowledge; who am I to discourage or deny Muslim sisters from getting educated when Allah and His Prophet commanded them to get educated. If I do such heinous thing than I will be violating Islamic teaching and that is something I have no intention of doing.

Website

On the issue of me wasting my time coming to your website, I must say I ended up in your blog by complete accident. I was looking for middle-eastern bloggers who write about political and social problems in middle-east. Your blog grabbed my attention because you mentioned that you are from PALESTINE and that is why I visited your blog for last two and half to three weeks. I was going to stop coming to your blog since it has nothing interesting for me i.e. nothing about Palestine political situation, Palestinian suffering in gaza and west-bank and how they are coping with their hardship, the hospital situations in gaza, mental help problems of children in Palestine â€“ according to an academic report over 60% of Palestinian children have LOST THE WIL TO LIVE. This is due to exposure to constant humiliation and violence from Israel.

Funny enough the day I decided that I will stop viewing your blog ,as I have found other more informative blogs written from within Palestine, that day you posted that article â€œsymbols of being differentâ€ and just couldnâ€™t leave without writing some comments. I just came back today because I wanted to see if you have replied my comments. I wonâ€™t be visiting anymore although you are welcome to email me any comments regarding this post. Have to finish the PHD proposal â€“ have a pile of books and journals on middle-east politics to read.

Apologize 

Finally, I want to apologize for the inappropriate statement â€œfull of hot airâ€. I was upset for what you wrote about hijab and hijabi women but that does not mean I should cross the line and use such inappropriate language. Prophet (PBUH) has shown by action many times that Muslims should not use any language that would cause distress to others. Prophet is the paragon we need to epitomize in each and every action we do. Keeping these teaching in mind I DEEPLY APOLOGIZE for using â€œfull of hot airâ€ phrase. I feel embarrassed. I appreciate you pointed out this as a Muslim is a mirror of another Muslim. Each should correct the other if one says anything wrong. I hope you will ACCEPT MY APPOLOGY and FORGIVE me and do not hold any bad feeling in your heart about me. I do not want to be embarrassed in the Day of Judgment in front of Allah for not being able to control my tongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOWARDS WOMEN! Why men donâ€™t follow that? You know how many insults Muslim and Arab men give me daily while they preach religion to me? Not only that. EVEN THE STARES I get from them! Why they donâ€™t follow this verse??? Or are they allowed to look?</p>
<p>There is a very simple explanation to this. When Muslim men around you tell you not to dress the way you dress it is because according to prophetic tradition a believer is a mirror to another believer. The prophet (PBUM) and his companions corrected fellow Muslims when they saw those Muslims are doing things that contradicted or violated Islamic teachings. You should not think that the Muslim men are staring at your body. Sometimes it is the shock of seeing a Muslim so blatantly transgressing ALLAHâ€™s will that makes unorthodox expression of outrage. It is just like dealing with racism. If the victims of racism did not stand up against racism than even today skin color would not become a secondary issue. By rising up against racism the victims CORRECTED the problem of racism for themselves and for future generations.</p>
<p>Having said that i would sympathies with you on one ground, that is, those Muslims who insult you in a rude or violent language are wrong as well because prophet (PBUH) always showed by actions that a Muslim should express his/her views in a polite and non-violent way i.e. no cursing, no â€˜Fâ€™ word, no â€˜Sâ€™ word, no â€˜Aâ€™ word etc.</p>
<p>Second, you are angry at Arab and Muslim men for looking at the way you are dressed, in other words you are upset at why are they not following the teaching of the verse you quoted. But what about you mona? Are you following ALLAHâ€™s commandments of covering yourself? Shouldnâ€™t you follow the verse I quoted before expecting others to follow the verse you quoted? </p>
<p>Third, if you see someone violating ALLAHâ€™s commands then YOU MONA have to correct them because if you do not do it than in the Day of Judgment ALLAH will hold you accountable for not telling the person doing wrong that he/she is doing wrong. Allah did not ask any Muslim to force others to correct themselves but Muslims are commanded to stand up against wrong.</p>
<p>â€œWhat is apparent exactly? This is purely debatable!!â€ To understand the verse correctly we have to look into the prophetâ€™s (PBUH) life. How did he practice this verse? Remember Allah has sent the prophet as an example to mankind. If we look at prophetâ€™s (PBUH) life and see what he taught his female SAHABIS than we can see very clearly that all Muslim women of his time covered themselves from head to their feet with exceptions of additional rules that applied to prophetâ€™s (PBUH) wives. Why do we Muslims have to DEBATE this verse now when prophet has stated the meaning of the verse himself through numerous examples. I do not understand this? Is the prophet (PBUH) not good enough for us?</p>
<p>The reason that we Muslims have started to debate certain verses of Quran is because western media and their regimes attack our beautiful Islam by picking verses that they can use to distort Islam. Did you know western academics do not study the HADITH of prophet when they become specialist on Islamic studies. To them HADITH means nothing. This is not a conspiracy theory. Last year I went back to university to study Islam in order to enrich my understanding of my DIN. Luckily (thanks ALLAH) I chose a university where all the teachers were Muslims except two. It was during this course that became clear how westerns manipulate verses of Quran to confuse Muslims and create anti-Islam sentiment. So, MONA, we should not have to DEBATE a verse all over again after 14 centuries because if we do then we are making the SUNNAH of prophet (PBUH) irrelevant. As Muslims we should never take this path.</p>
<p>Palestine</p>
<p>â€œ..you Muslims nations didnâ€™t care about the holy land and Zionist killing my peopleâ€<br />
â€œMuslim children in Palestine are being killed and you Muslim nations and people are just watching. You have been watching for over 60 years!â€<br />
â€œArenâ€™t we Muslims supposed to help other Muslims?â€</p>
<p>I donâ€™t know how you came to this conclusion that Muslim nations are just watching the massacre of Palestinian Muslims for last 60 years without helping them. Muslims around the world are trying with everything they can to help Palestinian Muslims, be it with money, food, medicine, or DUA. It is not the Muslims who are not helping but it is the ARAB REGIMES who are not helping and just watching. Had these Arab regimes cared about Islam and Muslims then Israel and Zionism would have vanished long time ago. When Israel was committing genocide in GAZA in the recent war the ARAB REGIMES remained silent in action and WATCHED and WANTED Israel to murder Gaza Muslims and their elected representative HAMAS. Gaza Muslims had to be punished for the crime of electing Hamas and Hamas for the crime of being DEMOCRATICALLY elected. It is not in the interest of Arab regimes to see an elected government in Palestine as that would put pressure on their political master Israel &amp; US and would undermine their legitimacy of power â€“ in other words their survival is at stake. An elected Palestinian government would invite voices in other Arab countries for free elections. The SAUDIS REGIME, guardian of kabba and medina, made sure emergency meeting of OIC did not take place and was delayed for two weeks to allow Israel to continue CALCULATED MURDER OF MUSLIMS IN PALESTINE. When OIC meeting did take place Saudis did not even show up. The EGYPTIAN REGIME closed the border with GAZA and did not allow even the basic food and medicine to go through RAFA terminal let alone military help.</p>
<p>The only MUSLIM COUNTRY that did every thing in its power to help GAZA MUSLIMS was IRAN. It voiced open condemnation and even sent a ship full of food and medicine to gaza which was intercepted by EGTPTIAN NAVY and not allowed to enter gaza port. Iranian government and press denounced Egypt for keeping the border closed. Iran asked Egypt repeatedly to open the border so that Iranian help, both humanitarian and military, can be channeled to Palestinian Muslims in Gaza. It was Iranian president MAHMOOD AHMADINIJAZAD who said in many international platforms that why is Israel created in Palestine. Jews were killed by the GERMANS and they should pay the price. Why are the western powers punishing Palestinian Muslims for a crime they did not commit. Why has Israel being created in Palestine?  It should be created in Germany where the Jews were killed. Why is Germany not giving up one or two of its states/provinces to create Israel? (check YouTube for Ahmadinizadâ€™s debate in a Washington university). All Arab regimes, US regime, European regimes, and US think tanks admit that if Iran had direct or indirect land border with Palestine than Palestine would have been liberated from occupation long, long, long time ago. Success of Hizbollah to end Israeli occupation of Lenanon has become possible due to Iranian indirect land border access to Lebanon through Syria â€“ an Iranian allay. MONA, Muslims nations are not guilty but rather ARAB REGIMES are the guilty one. Even your own Palestinian MAHMOOD ABBAS was watching the massacre of gaza Muslims and kept inactive during the entire carnage. He even went as far as to blame hamas for the death of gaza Muslims. Palestinian telegraph published two weeks ago questioning if Abbas is a real president as his actions are always to please Israel and US. Abbas even didnâ€™t want the goldstone report on Israel crime in gaza to be discussed in United nations human right committee. One of your OWN does not care about your suffering and you accuse me and Muslim nations for not caring; STRANGE VERY STRANGE. I donâ€™t know if you genuinely donâ€™t know the political facts or you are just saying this just to get back at me. Allah knows best</p>
<p>As far as me is concerned I am fully aware of the suffering of Muslim UMMAH in Palestine and in other parts of the world- Iraq, Afghanistan, .Kazakhstan, Kashmir, Pakistan, Myanmar, China, Philippine, Bosinia etc I have participated with every bit of help I can do through Islamic relief, Muslim Aid, and UN humanitarian agencies to help my sisters and brothers in Palestine. I regularly attend academic seminars, anti-war movement seminars, and visiting Palestinian students and academic seminars to ensure that that suffering of the ummah is highlighted and world public opinion is mobilized against the Israeli crimes.</p>
<p>I spent a bulk of my daily time reading news, academic journals and think tank publications about middle-east politics. People who know me well tell me that I should have studied international relations because despite not being from this background I can give political analysis of middle-east current affairs. Last year when I was doing a masters degree on Islam I was repeatedly told by academics to study something with political science or international relations since I have so much interest in it. That way I can better represent Muslim interest. I am writing a proposal for a PHD in the area of Islamic international relations. Insha-allah if everything goes right I will start next year.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point of saying all this is to assure you I am not those Muslims who have forgotten the bleeding wound of Palestine. I am doing everything in my power to help Muslims as are so many other Muslims I know off. We have not FORGOTTEN the Palestinian brothers and sisters. They are very much alive in our hearts.</p>
<p>Prophet (PBUH) has said that a day will come when Jerusalem (Al-Qods) will be liberated and suffering of Muslims in Palestine will end. Muslim will be divided initially but eventually they will pull themselves together and liberate Al-Qods. These are saying of the prophet (PBUH). I just donâ€™t know if I or you will live long enough to see that beautiful day. If we do who knows we might meet in Palestine in front of Masjid Al-Aqsa. Insha-allah.</p>
<p>Job</p>
<p>â€œI have to change my life and traditions for the sake of survival. If it means I donâ€™t wear a hijab to get a job to support my self and my family, but still keep my morals and religious beliefs, then I am sticking to this lifestyle. I am not going to change my apparent modest lifestyle to a more conservative one than I already have to sit at home. I didnâ€™t need to get an education to sit at home because the world around me is racist and wonâ€™t hire me.â€</p>
<p>â€œAlso, I cannot force an entire culture to accept me for being different. All I can do is find a middle ground to keep my morals and religious beliefs and still fit in.â€</p>
<p>On the topic of job, as I said in my previous comment Muslims should not compromise Allahâ€™s commandments under any circumstances. If they do this then they are living for DUNIYA not for Allah. A convert friend of mine left his teaching job in mainstream school to work in Islamic schools for half the salary of mainstream school. I asked him why he has done this? He said that in mainstream school there were many topics being taught to children that were head-on-clash with Islamic teachings and he being converted to Islam did not feel right to associated with such teachings. He would rather get less paid than disobey Allah and his messenger. I can tell you I was deeply touched and spiritually uplifted by this brotherâ€™s explanation.  I told myself I should also try harder to live for Allah and not for DUNIYA. Just like you, I have achieved undergraduate degree in computer science from a world class university, I also have a masters in computer science (The degree I did on Islam was my second masters degree) but never got the job I wanted to get because of my religion and to some degree my color and ethnic background. WESTERN DEMOCRACY AT ITS FINEST, HOW STRANGE. However, I have no sadness in my heart because I always pray to Allah not to give me any job where I have to compromise or break any of his commandments. Alhamdulliah, Allah has taken care of me and I have a job with which I can survive respectfully.</p>
<p>Yvonne Ridly, the British journalist captured by Taliban in Afghanistan, who later converted to Islam and was fired from Saudi owned Islam channel because she criticized Saudi regime. However, Allah has given her much better journalistic career in PressTv &#8211; Iranian 24 hours English news channel. She has her own show in current affairs where she regularly discusses issues about Muslim suffering including Palestine. She covered, on behalf of PressTv, British MP George Gallowayâ€™s heroic effort taking humanitarian aid to gaza by breaking Israeli sanctions and handing it over to hamas the elected government of gaza. Allah has rewarded her for wearing hijab and so what she does not work for BBC and other pro-zionist media outlets.</p>
<p>The point of saying this is that you should not trade Islamic lifestyle to get a job. If you ask Allah from your heart He will definitely provide means to meat your needs.</p>
<p>The bit I particularly found OFFENSIVE is that when you said Muslimas in Hijab cannot work in a group. What this means is, hijabi muslimas are somehow inferior and Muslim women should blend in by dressing according to the norms of society they live in. As I said before there is no such teaching in Islam. Allah nor His prophet (PBUH) ever said directly or indirectly that Muslims can BLEND in to please societyâ€™s demands. Does this mean if Canadians decides that from now on everybody should go to office naked than Muslim men and women should blend in with societyâ€™s norm and start going to office naked? Will this be Islam? My entire argument was here which I think you have missed.  Muslims need to dress according to Allahâ€™s wish both men and women. It is not a choice. When you said &#8211; â€œI donâ€™t need to wear anything that secludes me from the normâ€ â€“ that is the problem. You are NO-ONE to say you do not need to when Allah says you have to. It is not debatable and I have explained it earlier. If you had said I â€œdonâ€™t want toâ€ than it would be a different case because that would mean you accept the commandments of Allah regarding wearing hijab but you are ignoring it to keep your job. However, when you say â€œI donâ€™t need toâ€ than it means, by a simple deduction reasoning, that Prophet and sahabas and tabains and tabay-tabins and those after them for last 14 centuries did not understand the ALLAHâ€™s Commandments. THAT IS A VERY BIG CLAIM AND A DANGEROUS ONE TOO. When I saw your post the other day I could not believe my eyes. There you were a Muslim blatantly denying Allahâ€™s will and worst you are from Palestine â€“the very place Muslims like me feel so dear and feel strongly to defend against western and Israeli aggression. I told myself what kind of people Muslims all over the world are passionately trying to help when one of them from Palestine does not hesitate to claim that hijab can be removed if one wishes!!</p>
<p>The other thing about babies which I forgot to mention yesterday so I am mentioning it now. I found your statement â€œSo, what happened to those girls? Well, they all got married, sat at home, and popped out babies.â€ RUDE because is this how MOTHERHOOD should be expressed â€œpopped out babiesâ€. Can we say the prophetâ€™s mother popped him out? ASTAK-FIRULLAH.<br />
MONA, i hope you can see the points I was trying to make. I am not engaging in futile debate. Allah is watching, I do not engage in debates just for the sake of debates. You wrote sometime wrong about Islam and I had to correct you because if I didnâ€™t in the Day of Judgment I will be hold accountable for letting a wrong interpretation of Islam to be posted on the internet when I knew it was wrong and did nothing. Now I have pointed it out to you and my conscious is clear, I can tell ALLAH that I have done my duty.</p>
<p>Education</p>
<p>I didnâ€™t need to get an education to sit at home because the world around me is racist and wonâ€™t hire me. Itâ€™s enough the world is racist and prejudice towards women and other races. I was forced to get an education because it says so in my religion that we all must get educated! Men and Women. How many backwards extremist Muslims still think that a women should not even get educated and just sit at home and take care of the family? Till now, there is a high rate of Muslim women who cannot read or write! </p>
<p>I have never said you should not study and should sit at home. You misunderstood my entire argument. In fact I am a VERY STRONG supporter of female education. I have on several occasions successfully influenced Muslim parents to continue educating their daughters after age of 16 by sending them to colleges and universities. In my own family my sisters are highly educated and constantly encourage family Muslimas- cousins, aunts, etc- to study in universities. I tell them if I can do it you can do it too. As you rightly pointed out Allah and His messenger has repeatedly asked Muslim men and women to seek knowledge; who am I to discourage or deny Muslim sisters from getting educated when Allah and His Prophet commanded them to get educated. If I do such heinous thing than I will be violating Islamic teaching and that is something I have no intention of doing.</p>
<p>Website</p>
<p>On the issue of me wasting my time coming to your website, I must say I ended up in your blog by complete accident. I was looking for middle-eastern bloggers who write about political and social problems in middle-east. Your blog grabbed my attention because you mentioned that you are from PALESTINE and that is why I visited your blog for last two and half to three weeks. I was going to stop coming to your blog since it has nothing interesting for me i.e. nothing about Palestine political situation, Palestinian suffering in gaza and west-bank and how they are coping with their hardship, the hospital situations in gaza, mental help problems of children in Palestine â€“ according to an academic report over 60% of Palestinian children have LOST THE WIL TO LIVE. This is due to exposure to constant humiliation and violence from Israel.</p>
<p>Funny enough the day I decided that I will stop viewing your blog ,as I have found other more informative blogs written from within Palestine, that day you posted that article â€œsymbols of being differentâ€ and just couldnâ€™t leave without writing some comments. I just came back today because I wanted to see if you have replied my comments. I wonâ€™t be visiting anymore although you are welcome to email me any comments regarding this post. Have to finish the PHD proposal â€“ have a pile of books and journals on middle-east politics to read.</p>
<p>Apologize </p>
<p>Finally, I want to apologize for the inappropriate statement â€œfull of hot airâ€. I was upset for what you wrote about hijab and hijabi women but that does not mean I should cross the line and use such inappropriate language. Prophet (PBUH) has shown by action many times that Muslims should not use any language that would cause distress to others. Prophet is the paragon we need to epitomize in each and every action we do. Keeping these teaching in mind I DEEPLY APOLOGIZE for using â€œfull of hot airâ€ phrase. I feel embarrassed. I appreciate you pointed out this as a Muslim is a mirror of another Muslim. Each should correct the other if one says anything wrong. I hope you will ACCEPT MY APPOLOGY and FORGIVE me and do not hold any bad feeling in your heart about me. I do not want to be embarrassed in the Day of Judgment in front of Allah for not being able to control my tongue.</p>
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No.. I am not engaged or met the right guy yet.. :) 3ady.. I am patient and leave everything to Allah.</description>
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