Baby poppers

Gosh. Okay I agree with you to an extent. But some of what you said is a bit harsh. Some women with degrees, maybe at some point decide they want to look after their families, and be there for their children. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Infact its a very hard decision and I am so impressed with someone who can take that step. Imagine leaving your whole career and intellectual life behind for the sake of Allah, your husband and your children? Its a tough thing.

Now, I am an educated woman, unmarried. and no children. SO I’m not sure what I will do 5 years, or 10 years from now. But I do know that my mum CHOSE to stay at home with us, and I LOVED every moment of it. I want to be able to offer the same stability for my children that I had growin up. I dont know if I will be able to if I am dashing off to the hospital every few hours.

Allah Yaalam.

I think we all have different roles and paths in life. The path you have chosen is not one that others may choose. Be confident in your decision , yes, but don’t put others down.

I am in the same position you are in at the moment (working and single) but who knows how it will change for either of us.

Inshallah kheir

Sorry, those are just my 2 cents on the issue. Great blog!

see you have to be *** only at home, by your hash-band. but getting *** at work and then go home and getting *** again is a bit too much.

well i do agree with u . my fiance is an arab but i told him CLEARLY that im a malay, n most malay women work to support their family, n thank god he was ok with the idea.:smile:

SILLA

I agree with you in principal, but in details, you are so shortsighted and I feel like the words are coming out of your rear-end rather than your mouth,

Here I will strike an example anticipating events. Suppose I am a girl who is aware of what you are saying. I am getting married. I am having children. They are handful, and I am deciding not to work but stay home looking after my children,

Does knowing all the above in anticipation mean that I should have not spent time educating myself?

Isn’t it better to have an educated mother than one who is barely educated?

Poepl set goals in their lives, work to achieve these goals. Circumstance change. So they set different goals, and work to achieve those goals. Hence we should not regret the efforts, time, money spent on the goals set before.

I do not want to use harsh language describing your article, but allow me to say it is but the yield of a foolish mind and shortsightedness.

@ QQ,SH,TS,FK,
MONA is a good business woman.she wants to increase her “blog vistors” by blaming her fellow arabs…don’t you understand this?.

Now I do. Thank you. Anyways, this is my first visit to her blog. And I still believe she is talking from her rear-end other than an orifice in her face.

You are so shallow. No, this is not what I am doing. I came here through another blog.

quote- I know how sad it is for Arab girls who are highly educated, hold post secondary or post graduate degrees and end up sitting at home taking care of the kids. I have nothing against them. I find it quite sad though that they wasted all those years to get a piece of paper to hang.-unquote

I think you need to go back to school to learn how to re-paraphrase your English for easier comprehension. Do not blame the reader if you failed in conveying your message.

Example:

It is nice to know that Arabian girls carry higher degrees; both post secondary and post graduate. Some of them after marriage and having children become so engaged in their familial lives that they find themselves obliged to quit working, or even not thinking of having a job, thus dedicating their full time to taking care of the family.

Nonetheless even it saddens me to find many of those highly educated girls entangled in such circumstance, I have to admit that a highly educated mother regardless of her field of education is far better than uneducated one.

End of example.

The way you expressed your thought is stereotypical. It is not the first time I hear it. And that is why I felt as if your words are coming from your rea-end, excuse me for the expression.

I think that the readers missed this line ‘ I feel really sorry for those Arab girls’ which is the basis of your post.

Mona the readers of your blog have probably not spent a lot of time in teaching and social environments with young Arab children and therefore maybe are not aware of the impacts on children’s emotional and mental development when they are only able to see one example of a woman and a man. We can offset the damage by contributing to society ourselves and showing those children that a woman can be strong, she can be a role model, she can be respectable, respected in her own right, and much more.

A mother can also be honorable and respectable by teaching her child/children about the world, opening their minds and giving them a feeling of strength and courage. A mother is much much more than pregnancy and childbirth. A mother can be many things. A mother can be the greatest achievement, it depends on the woman!

I don’t want to give a speech but when you talk about women ‘popping out babies’ those babies have minds and hearts and souls, they are babies for a very short time and adults a very long time. You touched a nerve!!!

And the girls saying they are doing things for ‘Allah’ please be honest with yourselves are you doing this for God or are you doing it to guarantee your own security? Are you doing it for God or are you satisfying your own biological clock? There is quite a big difference.

Are you One hundred percent sure you are doing it for God?

If you cannot admit your need for emotional support, financial security, or need to satisfy your body clock that is OK. You don’t need to. But do not hide behind the image of God. If you want to drag yourselves down you can do it by yourself without dragging down an entire religious, moral, ethical, intellectual, and scientific system of thought down with you.

God represents, strength, courage, intelligence, bravery, humility, respect, honor, justice, science, maths, and much more.

If you really believe in God like you say you do, you would not throw the word around as much as you do.

If you dare disrespect me like you are used to disrespecting Mona, I will devour you and spit you out.

Mona, you are assuming again. I am not one of those, though I do not know who you are referring to. I do not argue, but I reason. And whether you change or not, it is your prerogative not mine. Also I would like to say I admire your courage admitting that your English is not good. Not so many people can do that. If I have offended you in anyway, please accept my apology.

And here comes the tigress, Ms. Mais.

I believe the last two line of your comment are directed to me.like you are

Quote- like you are used to disrespecting Mona -end quote

Are used to! that is funny. I have just been here a few time only; a matter that refute your allegation of “are used”. Moreover why do you think that I disrespect Mona despite the fact that I am constructively criticizing her.

Added to the above, WOW you are reading too much into a simple post and giving yourself the right of a psycho analyst babbling about stuff which is totally irrelevant.

It seems that you know nothing about women in the Middle east and the Middle east. There is not only one example of woman and man as you alleged. Another stereotypical statement. I grew up in the Middle East in a society where there are lots of working woman: Engineers, lawyers, doctors, teachers, scientists, journalists, TV casters, etc. All my relatives – and they are many – are. Some are married and some not. Even in a country which is far more restrictive than other countries in the area like like Saudi Arabia I have notice during my work there for more than 10 years that they are not one type as you mentioned herein above.

Hold your horses and do not let your emotion talk instead of what God has installed in your cranium.

Definitely an educated woman is far better than uneducated woman, though it is not necessary that she will be a better mother. My mother had a minimal education, and she was great and wise.

Now get it installed in your mind that the role of a woman taking care of her children is far better than letting strangers to look after them as it is mostly the case in the West.

Devour me and spit me out all you want. Again it is your prerogative not mine.

N.P.: By the way, since you mentioned “Mona the readers of your blog have probably not spent a lot of time in teaching and social environments with young Arab children”, I was a school teacher for a few years. And I did not teach geography, but Psychology, sociology, philosophy and comparative theology, and an assistant professor in a university teaching comparative linguistics.

Now, Missie, tell me what do you know about young Arab children?

you are totally right. at least some Arabs have sense..

and all the self-righteous assholes who don’t like what you’re saying should really just get off your blog. those women act like it is better to stay at home and take care of the kids in order to appease themselves and give themselves assurance that their pathetic lifestyle is the way to go.

Forgive me if I had not read all the comments and had a general idea of what was said, and if I say anything that is repetitive, please ignore it. However, what many people fail to realize, from an Islamic Point of view, is that a woman is only obliged to raise her children and they have a right for her to do so, as well as the father is obliged to provide financially for his family and have them live in a safe environment.

Now, what many “Arabs” nowadays assume a woman should do, is be a housemaid, a mother, a soccer mom, etc… and unfortunately many women live their lives doing so. Now, is an education wrong even if she never uses it? To an extent no, since an educated mother is ten times more productive in raising her children than an uneducated women. Now, let’s say her kids are raised and taken care of, then she has every right to pursue any career and be a valued and productive member of society. (However, no one should belittle the occupation of a mother, for it is the most noble of occupations).

This view however came about in the past 200-300 years that Arab women should be much more than they should be, in the small aspects of life. (In the Ummayad and Abbasid Eras, women had an integral part of society, and I could list several positions that they held that could challenge “Women Equality” in the West any day).

Let us not neglect 50% of our society, I honestly feel that we Arabs hinder the potentials of the “fairer sex”. Please forgive me if I am emphasizing Arabs a lot, it is a common problem amongst us more, as opposed to Malays.

Women, don’t live in superficiality, and don’t settle for being some housemaid. Emulate your ancestors, they made our society great, and the best way to be successful is to learn from the people that were successful before.

@Anmol

Self-projection as psychiatrist might say. I think you are the one who has the feeling of being self-rightous, and consequently you are the AssHole; a stinky one, though.

Mona, you said :…. As for my bad English grammar, oh well, I am no English major and I managed to maintain this blog with bad English.

ME: in one of your previous posts, you mocked visitors (i think that was me) not to comment on your blog if they are bad in english and so on…..

any way, i am really thankful to you for your apology and helping me dare to comment on your blog with my bad english and improve my english in this way from worst to bad,then bad to good ……

I also grew up in the Middle East for most of my life. I did not direct my last comment at you, either. You assume. Why?

‘A society where there are lots of working woman’ I never once mentioned working women, you automatically linked my comment about ‘one type of man and woman’ to working vs non working mothers. Why?

‘My mother had a minimal education’ And is that a reason for you to completely miss the point of the post?

And yes, I spend lots of time with Arab children, from various Arab countries, so I am entitled to speak on this issue.

‘Now get it installed in your mind that the role of a woman taking care of her children is far better than letting strangers to look after them’. Please reference. Where did I mention that it is better for strangers to look after children?

‘babbling about stuff which is totally irrelevant.’ Ah, well, if you think it is irrelevant, then that is another topic entirely.

I suspect that you are reducing your response to assumptions and personal insults because you do not know how to respond otherwise. That is OK though, you already mentioned that you find my commentary irrelevant.

You may continue to find it irrelevant if you like, but, you should try and show the minimal respect for those who do find it very much relevant.

Thank you.

@Mais

Here it comes…short and concise..you are so ignorant. And by the way you can not consider this insult, because the word ignorance is Latin and it means “not knowing”

@Mona

Mona, take it easy and relax. The simplest definition of language is: language is a means of communication. You do not have to be fluent. Neither does your grammar have to be 100% perfect , or your syntax excellent.

I understood your article perfectly well. I can reach beyond the obvious and read between the line. I am a teaser and sometimes I become mischievous specially when the person involved is young. I am almost 60 years old, and sometimes mischief amuses me. It takes me back to my childhoo. when I was a kid, my mother used to call me: little Efreet, but I was not evil.

When it comes to pouring our thoughts out in words, most people find it difficult. Words have shadows, and are more linguistically linked and controlled by factors such as etymological and morphological history, the environment and the culture.

People who left comments on this blog have in a way or another legitimate point regardless how shallow or profound their comments maybe. It is a matter of comprehension and approach. For example: a poet may compose a piece of poetry, and critiques keep analyzing and come up with a thousand interpretation. Some could be right and some could be wrong. But the Exact meaning and the correct interpretation is what is in the heart of the poet. He might have meant a very simplistic thing that needed not to be approached by critiques in such sophisticated way.

Anyways, from the responses I have read so far, I think I have stirred lots of dust and anger. I am soooo laughing.

Guys and gals, please forgive me!

Mona, I have three blogs on the net. Feel free to visit: 1. short stories and linguistics, 2. my favorite subjects; mythology, archeology, history and extraterrestrials, and 3. My political forum.

1. http://greyliteratureandlinguistics.blogspot.com/
2. http://havewebeenvisitedbyextraterrestrials.blogspot.com/
3. http://www.thenakedtruthinaconfusedworld.blogspot.com/

@Mona

“If a person has more than one blog to express themselves, then they are not doing a great job at showing the world who they are as a whole in one place”

WOW, now I can say with no shadow of doubt in my heart that you are so MENTALLY RETARDED.

Farewell and do not bother to answer.

@truthseeker,
i voted for all your comments above.
but,
Mona is giving her opinion on your three blogs.and she didn’t criticize your opinions on the same.she was just saying what she likes and what not. I think that was not a harsh comment on her fellow Arabs.

Do you think to use the word “MENTALLY RETARDED” is the right one?

@Mona,
I appreciate your response and courtesy.

LMAO.

@truthseeker

now I understand why you are so pissed. you’re almost sixty years old.. you’re just mad that you spent your whole pathetic existence popping out babies and being a sex toy for your husband and so in order to make yourself feel better about your miserable life you like to go online and harass the strong and independent Muslim women of today. get a life you old hag.

@Mona and @Mais..

I feel so much better that there are actually other Muslim women like me out there. Way to go girls. I swear yall should start like a support group website or something for other Muslim girls trying to make it on their own without having to spend their lives being a sexual release for some nasty horny man.

and let me say something. Arabs are the ones who have mistreated their women the MOST in the entire history of man. they were the MOST corrupt people ever which is why Allah sent Islam to them in order to nip the evil in the bud. and to this day their women are the most suppressed out of any other group of people on this planet. The Malays and Persians and even some of the South Asians are better off than Arabs are. Arab men are some of the most entitled, rude, and horniest men that I’ve ever met. And I’m not racist but it’s the truth. That’s why I am always cautious to be friends with Arab girls because they can rarely go anywhere other than their house and most of them get married very young and think their sole purpose in life is to please their husband and the WORST thing is that they actually think that Allah wants them to live like that. Allah holds the souls of both men and women equally. Yes he has given men some limited advantages over women but only as a form of testing them, to see if they will treat their women well. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh repeatedly emphasized to people to treat women well. Aisha a.s. was one of the most educated people of her time. The wives of the prophet took part in the civil wars after his death and were very active in politics and education. And Allah has no problem with women working and living productive lives so long as their husband is okay with it, because if he is not it would cause marriage problems and make both spouses unhappy, which is why it is important to marry a guy who would be okay with you living your life the way you want to live it. And let us not forget that getting married and having kids is NOT a requirement in Islam, it is only sunnah. This whole idea of women being nothing but objects of sex and baby poppers is what the idol worshippers of Arabia believed in as did most of the rest of the world in darker times. Islam gives a woman complete right over her own life.

So there is nothing wrong with not getting married and having a career. It is just not that common since most Arab men are obsessed with having sex with virgins .. lol okay sorry that might’ve been too far but you know what I mean.

I wouldn’t be surprised if “truthseeker” was actually an Arab man. Strong females make them very nervous.

Keep doing your thing Mona! I love reading your posts. <3

@notsotrue

If you read my previous comment to her, you will find that I am extending my hand in piece to her and to anybody who might have been offended by comment.

I know sing the expression “mentally retarded” is not appropriate. I was shocked when she said: “If a person has more than one blog to express themselves, then they are not doing a great job at showing the world who they are as a whole in one place”. This is not expressing her opinion, or it is but coming from an extremely close-minded person. I do not want to delve into explanation as she might have been only blunt while I was in a bad frame of mind.

@TruthSeeker
NotSoTru, I am getting you involved in this. Please read.

WOW, WOW, WOW…Ha, ha, ha..They have formed a consortium to attack me. But the truth is they are all vindictive, ignoramus, mentally retarded females, and the serious thing is..they do not know.

Yes I am almost 60 years old person, but with only two sons. So I have not been poping up childre.

My whole so called pathatic existance was spent in hard work and always studying. I have a bachelor degree from the oldest and still functioning university on Earth (Al-Azhar University), a Master degree from Edinburgh, Scotland, followed by a PhD; all in comparative linguistics (major) and comparative religions (elective). Tell me, what do you have?

You are not strong independent woman. You are parrots mimicking some Western ideas without even profoundly understanding them.

I am not an old hag. Do not insult your gender as one day your mothers will reach that old-hag age.

Have you idiots, visited my blogs, you will have seen a picture of mine; a man not a woman. Surprise!!!

Finally you have shown your ugly face, as before you sounded kind of being defensive. Women in the Middle East are not a sexual release for some horny men. This is stereotypical, and I have heard it before so many times. Life is full of stupid people like you.

And of course I know what you mean. You do not have to marry. Keep working as a single woman and be nice to your boyfriend. you know what I mean, young Mary.

Stop diluting yourself by thinking you are are a strong woman. You are a westernized girl; the ignorant ones, not that Western women are bad.

My wife is Canadian from Dutch and Scottish origin. When I met her the first time, I told her I do not like submissive woman, the yes-sir type. I told her that I like my wife to be a strong woman who can guide me when I go astray. A strong woman means a strong son or daughter. You don not scare me. You are not strong at all. You are a young girl who sound like a high school drop out; a crockpot full of BS.

“I have nothing against Arabs. I am one.” This is quoted from the begining of your post. Whom you are deceiving here but yourself.

I am laughing.

All young Arab girls out there,

Truth seeker is not only seeker, he is really an Arab guide for the westernized young girls like you….his words are like an eye opener. I think you must be adjusting your underdeveloped mentality to his “strong dose” of words.

He is a gem of constructive critics, a real guide but strict and loving.

My naseeha to all western influenced Muslim Arab sisters, follow his words, try to adopt what he says. If you cannot do that, and want to respond negatively, be careful, he has a baton with “weapon of mass developments to your immature minds “ . In other words you can say, bitter medicine for diluted minds……….

Think twice before you decide to respond to him.

@notsotrue

I sincerely thank you from the deep depth of my heart.

I have lived long enough and been through circumstances that made me a good judge of characters. Mona and her likes are so transparent to me. I have easily read through them. They are but young, inexperienced people that can be easily attracted by buzzing words like “woman emancipation. Woman liberalism, etc.” without even knowing what these words really imply.

It is said: “Kawlun Haq Urida Behe Batil” This translates as: words which might be true, but said, though, for the attainment of an evil goal.

Do they understand what I have just mentioned above. I doubt it.

I know, sometimes in the heat of reasoning I get hot, aim and strike, therefore words come out of me straightforward without beating around the bush; blunt and not sugar coated they maybe, but no hatred, grudge or disrespect intended.

Nonetheless, sometimes when someone is in a deep slumber, and shouting and shaking become fruitless, you will have to slap him/her on the face.

Thanks again.

anmol, how old are you? =) where are you from originally darling ? =)

Truth seeker, some on here may be very educated but choose not to disclose details. I do not know any senior well learned man that uses foul language when trying to make a point. Moreover, you assume that people are addressing you when they are not, and still, further, choose to not reply to the questions directed towards you. That is not the behavior of the learned men that I have met.

No one on here has mentioned womens emancipation or womens liberalism, only you. You are too focused on saying what you want to say and continue to miss the point.

A PHD in linguistics, yet you still choose to use language like ‘cockpot full of BS’, ‘mentally retarded’ and ‘asshole’. Foul.

@Mais

I hope we are not playing games. I can, with no offense intended, my age and ethnicity are none of your concern.

Nonetheless, I am late 50, highly educated, well-read in a wide scope of diversified subjects, married and father of two sons and also a writer of short stories who published many in his native tongue.

Now where am I from?

I am from the Middle East, not the Mid East where I think you are from (maybe not).

But where exactly in the Middle East? If you have read my comments so far, you could have easily guessed it.

Anyways, if you know what the seven ancient wonders of the world are, my country of birth contains two of them.

Now: 1. What are the 7 wonders?, and 2. What are the 2 ones contained in my country of birth?

Still confused?!! you can guess it through a correct answer to these two questions: 1. What is the longest river in the whole world?, and 2. where does it run and pour its water?

If you still do not get it, then…I do not what to say, and I do not want to be rude.

But does it matter where I am from or how old I am?

- Old age not necessarily means wisdom and/or experience. I have seen
people who are old but talk like fools.

- High education not necessarily means literacy. I have talked to
highly educated people who are more illiterate than peasants
who never attended schools.

- Young age though means lack of enough experience and education.
It is inherit in the fact of being young-aged. Nonetheless,
it does not necessarily means idiocy or stupidity.

@Mona

You know, the more you talk, the more stupid you sound like. who told you I am or I am not? You are so presumptuous!!!

Set back and relax, and think twice before you talk, because you are so dumb. Words are like arrow, once released you can not retrieve them. And the sound of the tongue can be more hurting than the wounds caused by the sword. I can be vulgar..more vulgar than you imagine.

My God I have never seen such a person with a pair of shoes in her cranium than a human mind.

Truthseeker, the question about age and ethnicity was directed towards Anmol, as I stated in my question ^.

But, obviously you are a proud Egyptian.

@Mais

Ha, ha…IT is said: “the worst mistake is sometimes the one that makes us laugh”

When I have read your comment, I oversighted the name.

Yes I was born in Egypt. Thank you anyway for correcting me. Now tell me…what is the oldest civilization known so far that existed on our planet?

Believe me it is not a stupid question. Many people do not know.

Mesopotamia,,,

I think that you would like the show ‘the weakest link’.

Truthseeker, in your seeking of the truth, I think you should apologize to Mona. You are on her blog, promoting your blog, and she has let you post here, even after calling her names. She also has a decade of work experience, three decades on this planet, and is continuing into further education. Don’t you think that deserves at least speaking to her in a civil tone?

@truthseeker,
all girls are respecting your views,but they are hurt by your harsh and ….words..please restrain from insulting.

i agree , your coments are direct and sharp..but ..?

@notsotrue

OK, truce…and I give you my word..I’ll not respond to any comment even if it is offensive.

@Mais

Apologize…out of the question. Leave her be..YES. No more responses to her comments. I give you my word.

Mesopotamia. Right answer, but why so many people have been under the wrong impression that it is the Ancient Egyptian Civilization?

I loved this post b/c you were expressing your _opinion_ nothing more.

I thought it could be useful to other people who want to get married, but aren’t sure whether they go to college.

For many people, college is really, really expensive, and creates a huge burden later. Why bother if you don’t need it?

So I thought that the post made sense; I don’t see why one person’s opinion can generate such a storm, but hey that’s life, and at least it’s entertaining.

i just want 2 say i really like the first baby on the left ,she looks really cute n looks like shes having a really good nap lol

TruthSeeker wrote, “Old age not necessarily means wisdom and/or experience. I have seen people who are old but talk like fools.”

He must have been looking at a mirror.